Guest: Conservative Trans Activist Kristy Pandora Greczowski Reacts to United States v. Skrmetti

In this episode of "From the Heart: Voice of a Conservative American Woman," host RuthAnn Hogue speaks with Kristy Pandora Greczowski, a transgender activist since 2015, about the Supreme Court's ruling on June 18, 2025, regarding United States v. Skrmetti.

This case concerns a Tennessee law (SB1) that prohibits doctors from providing certain medical treatments, such as puberty blockers or hormones, to minors for gender transition, while still allowing them for other medical reasons like birth defects or diseases. The Supreme Court upheld the Tennessee law, ruling it does not unfairly discriminate and is constitutional.

Kristy Pandora, who identifies as a man who presents as feminine and has been living as a transgender woman since 2010, shares her unique perspective on this ruling. She supports the law, believing it protects minors from medical treatments they may not fully understand and stands with parents who want to shield their children from what she calls "the dark side of the rainbow." Kristi emphasizes that "transgender" has become an "ideological trap word" and an "umbrella term" that has appropriated the medical condition of gender dysphoria. She argues that the far left has used this term to push a "pseudo-religious ideological social construct redesign of gender and sexuality."

Kristy also shares her personal experiences with transition, noting that it's an adult decision that requires a full understanding of one's body, mentality, psyche, and spirituality, which children cannot fully grasp. She raises concerns about the long-term effects of hormone replacement therapy and surgeries, including bone loss and emotional struggles, and criticizes the current system for lacking proper diagnostics and accountability for detransitioning individuals. She states that there's no such thing as a "trans kid" because even adults in the trans community don't agree on the social construct of gender.

Kristy advocates for counseling and a shift in federal funding towards the diagnostic and mental health aspects of gender dysphoria, separating it from ideological belief systems. She believes parents should have control over their children's ideological direction regarding gender. Kristy also discusses her journey from being a "far-left social justice warrior" and part of the trans adult industry to becoming a conservative and supporter of the MAGA movement, driven by concerns about substance abuse within the transgender community and social media manipulation. She views the MAGA movement as her "family" and advocates for equal rights and American liberty for all.

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SHOW TEASER QUOTE:

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: I recognize that I am a man who identifies and presents feminine. I am not a woman and I fully accept that. I do not seek to bring down or in invade any real womanhood in any way, shape, or manner. In fact, I stand with most of you guys and most of your physicians regarding a transgender movement, and I think that this is an important start on your podcast to bring that point forth.

I also want to talk about the children because I think they are more than, and even woman itself, not the most important aspect of the gender identity movement that we need to understand and protect.

Introduction and Podcast Overview

Host RuthAnn Hogue: welcome everyone to From the Heart Voice of a conservative American woman. I'm Ruth Ann Hogue and I'm your host. Today we're going to talk about a recent and very important decision from the highest court in our country, the Supreme Court. This case is called United States v. Skrmetti. It's all about a law in Tennessee concerning medical care for young people.

Introducing the Guest: Kristy Pandora

Host RuthAnn Hogue: I. [00:01:00] Today we have a truly remarkable guest joining us, someone who embodies both strength and a singular viewpoint on a critical topic. We're honored to introduce Kristy Pandora.

Kristy is a powerful voice who's been a transgender activist since 2015. Appearing on numerous podcasts and legacy media shows, sharing her insights and advocating for what she believes in. Born Christopher, Kristi has been living authentically as herself, a transgender woman since 2010, originally from the rich history of New England.

Spending some of her time in Connecticut and then later in Rhode Island. She now thrives in her feminine identity in Alabama. Whereabouts in Alabama? Kristy? I live in a Huntsville area, town called Athens, right outside Huntsville, Northern Alabama.

Supreme Court Decision on Gender Affirming Care

Host RuthAnn Hogue: Christie brings a unique perspective to our conversation today, especially regarding the Supreme Court's recent decision on [00:02:00] gender affirming care for minors. She firmly believes in protecting minors from medical treatments. They may not be mature enough to fully understand, and she stands in support of parents who wish to shield their children from what she refers to as the dark side of the rainbow.

Kristy is a passionate advocate for showcasing the rich diversity within the transgender community to society. While maintaining that children should remain separate from certain aspects of this discussion, it's a privilege to have her here to shed light on this nuanced and often misunderstood subject.

Welcome Christie.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: Thank you. Welcome. 

Kristy's Perspective on Transgender Identity

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: And one thing I do want to start off with because of your particular podcast is, I want to say is I recognize that I am a man who identifies and presents feminine. I am not a woman and I'm never going to plug a square peg into that round hole. I fully accept that.

I appreciate the way that you've introduced me, but I'm much mature in among my transition and I do not seek to try [00:03:00] to bring down or. Invade any, any real womanhood in any way, shape and manner. In fact, I stand with most of you guys in most of your positions regarding the transgender movement, and I think that this is an important start on your podcast to bring that point forth.

I also want to talk about the children because I think they are more than, and even women itself. So the most important aspect of the gender identity movement that we need to understand and protect.

Host RuthAnn Hogue: Thank you. And thank you for clarifying that. I felt it would be better to have you do that than have me to try to explain it. I wanted people to hear it from you. So, thank you so much and briefly setting this up. 

Tennessee Law and Supreme Court Ruling

Host RuthAnn Hogue: Today's topic takes us back to 2023 when Tennessee passed a law called SB one Senate Bill One, and this law stops doctors and other healthcare providers from giving certain types of medical treatments like puberty blockers or hormones to minors.

That means anyone under 18. If those treatments are meant to help them change their gender [00:04:00] identity or deal with discomfort about their biological sex, however, the law does allow these treatments or other medical reasons if a child has a birth defect or a disease.

Which I think is important to mention because sometimes, , there may be other reasons for it and we certainly wouldn't want to prevent, , that from happening. So, Christie, as a transgender woman, what was your initial reaction when you heard about this specific Tennessee law and then, well this subsequently when the Supreme Court decision came to uphold it.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: When this law came out is actually, it's kind of a step up from a law they passed in 2021 when they went after the puberty blockers for children, which I supported as well. , When I heard that they were supporting this in Tennessee, this is something that I got behind and actually stood and from the state legislator, because I absolutely understood that we need to protect the children.

That is my personal opinion and my view as someone who is born with gender dysphoria that's gone through the transition. And for us to continue this conversation. If we're going to have [00:05:00] this podcast, this, it's going to be very complex and we need to understand, when they say transgender, we need to understand what transgender is itself.

Transgender is kind of like an ideological trap word. It's, it's an umbrella term for anybody that is not I. Living their authentic sexual gender. Uh, you know, the, the birth sex that they were born as and for any deviance from that would fall under umbrella term of transgender. So that consists of people who do have the medical condition.

The medical condition, which we're talking about is gender dysphoria. I. That is only a small subsector of the entire transgender movement. Transgender itself is a pseudo religious ideological social construct redesign of gender and sexuality, which has appropriated the medical edition of gender dysphoria.

And this is one of the main reasons I've been very excited to try to get behind this legislation. See the Supreme Court back that up because the far left took the medical condition over the past 15, 20 years. They appropriated it and they. Put a lot of misinformation under the term transgender. There's a lot of confusion [00:06:00] of what that may be because of the amount of diversity that's underneath that umbrella.

So when you say transgender, for example, when they tried to pass transgender laws under the Biden administration under Title ix, they did it under sexual discrimination, meaning that. And female. Two sexes. It's a binary system. The social construct redesign of gender and sexuality that I speak of is the pseudo religious, ideological social construct.

That is, that gender is not reflective of the birth sex in any way, shape, or form. That gender is on a spectrum, a multitude. Of, of, of, of expressionism that are not reflective of the birth sex in any way, shape or form. So it takes birth, sex definitive outate gender expression and puts it into a place of free will.

Now, I'm not against people believing that, but that's an ideology I do not believe in. I personally believe that sex-based gender is, is binary of male and female, that we are created of this way. And as someone who's been in this transition now who is born with gender dysphoria. I do not accept the ideology, which umbrella is over me.

So that's how I may [00:07:00] differ from a lot of transgender people. And I want everyone to understand when we speak a transgender, this is a smoke show, a slight of hand that the far left has tried to use by using this terminology transgender. What they've been doing is taking a pseudo religious, ideological social construct and running under the guise of identity politics and pretty much controlling the information used in social media algorithms, censorship.

An institutional, um, propaganda in order tried to push their narrative into one direction, leaving the most of pop kind of confused and blind, and thinking that in, in some, the aspect that transgender people, again, that term the umbrella, are just victims to society, when in fact it's a social engineering conquest to change the social dynamics of gender and sexuality for the entire human race.

Personal Experiences and Broader Implications

Host RuthAnn Hogue: That's a fascinating perspective, Kristy. Many people might expect a transgender person to oppose laws restricting gender affirming care for minors. Can you explain why you supported Tennessee's position overall? 

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: Because I understood the importance of what they were really [00:08:00] attacking, and that was the deception within the terminology going into the Title IX and sexual discrimination. , Again, the goal of the social construct redesign is to break down the binary system completely.

Using, again, identity politics and propaganda. When I learned that Jack Johnson and Mark Lamberth were working in teaming up to create this bill. I became very excited. And of course I wanted to support this. Not only that, [as]someone who's gone through this, I, understand.

I was born gender dysphoria. I struggled through this, my personal journey, my entire life. But it takes an adult decision to become who you are. what they're doing after we've spent 10 to 15 years, a heavy indoctrination to our youth into this new ideological social construct.

They might try to sell the gender dysphoria one end, but on the other end, they're bringing in this social construct, this ideology, and they are indoctrinating children into a belief system. Um, that gender. So sex-based, put it this way, sex-based when you were born, a sex that is a lifetime characteristic.

You cannot shake. I can take pills, I can mimic, I [00:09:00] can look, I can present different, but I can never be, and the ideology. It's very, it's different. It's trying to sell people that they can be something that they're not, put a square bag into a round hole, and if not, they're going to be a victim. And, and I see that as very problematic, um, to my people.

For my people's position. I believe it cuts off the ability to truly self-love and to self-accept, and also the diagnostic aspect of who's truly transgender and who's not. We're now in 2025. This isn't what it was when [Bruce] Jenner came out. We're now at a point, if you go on social media, we're on TikTok, you're on Facebook, you're going to see transgender people themselves coming out and saying that people who are born trans medicals or with gender dysphoria don't really have a say.

It's just a small faction of the society that it's just, it's, again, it's an ideological adoption. So we have pseudo religious ideology running under the guise of identity politics, me and mixed him with medicine. And that's something that's very tragic. Again, this is an adult decision. I could I go back my own decision?

Had I gone on transition as a young age, if my parents had let me, which never would've happened, but had they let me and raised me [00:10:00] up, I would've transitioned into my age now and I'd always be wondering whether or not I was the other end. So you have to go through puberty as your born self to understand truly your body, your mentality, your psyche, your spirituality.

Every aspect of you as a human, needs to go through the entire balance to figure out who you are. Truthfully, you take that away from a kid. They're in trouble. And I think that's going to cause a lot more depression, a lot more, a lot more issues within the trans community as they grow older. , And not only that, can anyone show me any type of.

Medical studies where we're looking 2, 3, 4 decades down the road with anybody who's been transgender, who's had access to hormone replacement therapy, who's had access to these surgeries, who's been living for that long, what are the long-term effects of this? , these are things that I, myself, I've been on HRT now for 15 years.

These are things that I worry about. I'm having issues with bone loss, bone density, I've struggled with my own emotional status, putting hormones into my body and what that did to my relationships and my family. These are true [00:11:00] issues that they're not selling. They're, they're pretty much taking elective surgery and elective medicine, pushing out there as affirmative care.

Taken away self-love and self-acceptance. And so to do that to a child I think is probably the most horrifying thing that I could ever imagine. And as someone who's lived through this process, I feel it's my responsibility to stand up to defend them. 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: Thank you. And I appreciate that. I met, Chloe Cole at one of the [Americafest] rallies that was here in Arizona, and she's one that has reversed.

She de transitioned and she's been making it on the circuit. She turned 18 and then realized this wasn't, wasn't for her. She had gone male. Having been able to meet you virtually online and then meeting Chloe in person, she started really young and wound up regretting it.

You've, you've chosen this as an adult, and this is who you are. And I respect you for that, and I respect Chloe for [00:12:00] making her decision at 18 to say, hey, what happened here?

Challenges and Future Directions

Host RuthAnn Hogue: We don't really have the studies for it, but that brings me back to some of these transgender young people. There's hashtag trans kids exist, trans kids are real, all of that.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: I don't believe there are such things as a trans kid. cause you could put me up against a far-left social justice trans, advocate right now. And the two of us could debate. I'm going to tell you, neither one of us are going to agree on what the social construct of what gender should be for us adults, even us in a trans community.

So, if us as adults within a trans community can't agree in a social construct of what gender is, then how is a kid going to?

Host RuthAnn Hogue: There's a whole lot of. Nuances with all of that. , we had a doctor challenging this law in Tennessee, from what I understand, saying it was unfair and that it violated the children's rights or the parents' rights. , , A lower court initially put a stop to parts of the law, but then a higher court said that the law was okay.

And then the Supreme Court stepped in to [00:13:00] decide if Tennessee's Law was constitutional, and on Wednesday, the Supreme Court ultimately decided that Tennessee's Law, which prohibits certain medical treatments for transgender minors does not unfairly discriminate and is therefore allowed under the Constitution.

This means the law can stand as it is and. It's a significant decision. It's something that impacts many families and continues the conversation around gender-affirming care.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: People are awakening at this point in time, in history, and this is why these discussions are important.

I fully support as well. RFK and what the Health and Human Resources report came out with a few weeks ago, I'm not sure if you've read that by invite everyone to do so.

There's been a lot of trans people who have been around for a while who are advocating for this and what it is, it's, we understand. This is a process and this is a life changing process and that the diagnostics are not happening correctly. When I first came out, well over 15 years ago, I had to [00:14:00] live as Christie for well over a year before I was offered any type of medication or affirmative care.

I had to go through intensives, psycho analyzation, and it was much different than it is today. It's lacks today, they've turned it into a pharma and they mixed the ideology in and they've taken away the diagnostic of it. Now, the Health and Human Resources report wants to continue to go back towards that, go back towards the diagnostic aspect, take a lot of the federal funding away from the affirmative care and go back to the diagnostic self-love and self-acceptance.

. Because what's happening now and Detransition like Chloe are proof of this, is that people who are not truly born with gender dysphoria are getting caught up into the mix and given life changing body changing, , social changing, medications, affirmative care, and again, this is ideological more than it is medical and we need to recognize the truth of that.

Host RuthAnn Hogue: I kind of wonder how things would've gone if this would've been a thing when I was a kid, because I had two older brothers. I was the first girl in the family, and they got all the cool stuff. They got bikes. I got a wagon, they got hot [00:15:00] wheels, I got Barbies.

Not that I didn't like my Barbies, but I wanted the Hot Wheels too. But now you do something like that, and I might've had a schoolteacher pull me aside and try to turn me into something that I'm not.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: Exactly.

That's what's scary to me is because we are growing up in a time where kids can have questions about things and I thought, I'm going to grow up and be like my dad. I'm going to be an executive and have this big desk and be in charge. And at the time, that was what men did. Women were nurses, were women, were teachers. The whole, the whole deal.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: Just, and the reason why it didn't exist then though. That reason's because social media didn't exist. True. And the biggest true building tool set of the gender identity movement has been the ability for them to censor opposition and indoctrinate their ideology through use of social media information.

And that's what's, that's pretty much the main cause of this. Mix that in with [00:16:00] big pharma and money and socialized medicine and boom, we have what we have today. 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: That makes a lot of sense. Because they can go straight to the kids.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski:

On top of that, we don't have a lot of protections for detransition. You go through, you get on this stuff, you're incorrectly diagnosed, you form the system. There's no mechanism for us to go ahead and do providers. And why is that? Why can't we go from malpractice on the diagnostic end?

These are some of the questions. As a trans person in the community, many of us have had. Again, this is why I have very little faith in the affirmative care and where the directions has gone. Not only through my own personal experiences, but I've had many friends I've gone through this, and some who are actually suffered gender dysphoria, who've gone through some of the process and really have issues and regrets in doing so.

And for them to not have that mechanism is a, again, it's, it's who's that protecting? Are they really protecting trans people? Are they protecting their own profit margins in sociological designs? And that's exactly what it's, and why I feel like I need to step up and help defend children, 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: I see that some of these kids are starting to [00:17:00] fight back and they're speaking out and they're filing lawsuits. So, there is a movement to get that change so that they can, if their rights were violated as a minor, they weren't old enough to consent to any of this. Their brains aren't fully developed until, what, 25 they say?

Yeah. So if your frontal cortex is, isn't even fully developed until 25, they won't let you get a tattoo until you're 18. You can't drink till you're 21. How can you decide that you're sex is different when you're three or four or five or 15? It blows the mind. 

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: And one important fact, we haven't mentioned this podcast, and I think a lot of people from the position of anti-trans healthcare for minors would be the fact that it will sterilize these children growing up into adulthood.

So, it's going to be taking the families, the future families away from them, how many relationships, how many what? What does that do to life O overall when they look back totally forward? This is not [00:18:00] a little decision. This is huge. 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: And 

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: if it's one and if they can make it as an adult, it's not a decision for life, it's a decision until they're adult enough to make the decision.

I don't see why this is an argument, 

This particular Supreme Court decision was very [exciting] to me, it was a signal of where the pendulum is swinging because one of the biggest deceptive moves, was, again, to go under the guise of discrimination against Title IX.

That is sex-based discrimination. They want to use the medical aspect of this within the binary system, but the same time under the term transgender. They want to bring in their new social construct ideology, deceptively, and try to whitewash it and kind of, again, it's inclusion, but invasion at the same time, taken over completely.

And so for them to not be able to make that move sociologically politically and legally, it roadblocks the transgender movement in a huge way that I don't think a lot of people truly understand. Once that deception is not a pathway to do so they have to be more open with the fact that this is not just a medical condition.

This is also an ideological social [00:19:00] construct redesign. Yes. So it exposes them. That's why they're so upset with the Trump administration over the past, , it's two terms in the past, 10 years is the fact that. They have interrupted what they needed to politically get done and set in stone in order for them to progress and take over completely, and that's not happening.

It needs to come to a place of true, equal rights for all. That's what I hope. I hope one day that the transgender movement can be truly truthful and recognize it. Self as an ideology or like a religious ideology under law and be placed under separation. Church and state. If someone wants to believe whatever they want to believe, they should be able to do it in their own corner.

They shouldn't be able to force that on other people. Go after their children, indoctrinate other children, and that's where we're getting into a crazy, crazy place. Yes. And also, I want to say this, in 2023, we need to remember. When this law came out, I want to say ag, the excitement, how quickly all the newsmen, we forget, 2023.

They were, the transgender community was actively being gaslighted for the Biden administration with far left, completely burning [00:20:00] down the movement as I knew it . And pushing this pseudo religious, far left, , ideology as best as they could. They were actively going in front of children, actively doing the drag queens, stuff in front of them.

Yes, they going into schools. They were gloating about it and they were gaslighting the American populous. And so we, we cannot forget the far left part in all of this legislation come to fruit. Petition and seeing now that they're going after Title ix. I'm also seeing things like what happened in Colorado.

We also have a case now that's challenging. What I really believe the conservative movement needs to laser focus on, okay, our challenges to religious freedom. And that's where I think this will really open up wide and bring it to a place of equal rights. Because once it's exposed that this is an ideologist, pseudo religious ideology we can recognize that and kind of put barriers within law there, we kind of stop the weaponization of the movement. 

And that's kind of where I'm seeing this whole thing in a pendulum swing. I'm very excited to where we're going. 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: It's definitely, , a good sign for sure.

Getting back to the actual [00:21:00] decision, let's break down how this decision came about and what it means for the average person in the United States.

We have different levels of courts when a new law is passed. 

Court Challenge Begins

Host RuthAnn Hogue: Like Tennessee's SB one, people who believe it violates their rights can challenge it in court. In this case, the challenge started at a district court, which is a trial court. That court looked at the law and initially thought it might be unconstitutional because it seemed to treat transgender individuals differently, suggesting it discriminated based on sex and transgender status, which is what Christie's been saying.

They believe that the law would likely not pass what's called intermediate scrutiny, a legal test where the government must show substantial reason for the law. They put a temporary stop to parts of the law. It was still in effect. It was just parts of it. 

Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals Decision

Host RuthAnn Hogue: So then the case went up to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, and this higher court disagreed with the first [00:22:00] court.

They ruled that the Tennessee law didn't trigger high scrutiny like intermediate scrutiny, and instead only needed to pass rational basis review. So rational basis review is a much easier legal test for a law pass. It basically asks if there's any reasonable legitimate government purpose of the law.

And the appeals court found that the law did meet this easier test, allowing it to go back into effect. 

Supreme Court Ruling

Host RuthAnn Hogue: And then finally the case reached the Supreme Court, our nation's highest court. The Supreme Court's job at that point was to decide whether the Tennessee law truly violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, which essentially guarantees that states cannot deny any person within its jurisdiction equal protection of the law.

The Supreme Court concluded that Tennessee's law prohibiting certain medical treatments for [00:23:00] transgender minors is not subject to heightened scrutiny. This means that they didn't believe the law classified people in a way that required a very strong justification from the state. Instead, they applied the rational basis review Test.

And under that less strict standard, they found that the law does satisfy the requirement. In plain terms, the Supreme Court determined that the state of Tennessee has a legitimate reason for enacting this law to protect minors and therefore the law is constitutional and can remain in effect.

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: One of the reasons I got behind it was because of the fact that they were trying to deceptively use the term transgender, not just sociologically. Ideologically, but also legally as a way to try to get into the binary system, to corrode it in order to bring in the ideological social construct redesign.

I understand that. And for them to roadblock that legally was, I'm not going to say it's a fatal [00:24:00] blow to the trans movement in its current shape and form but it is a massive one, and that's one of the reasons why I fully support it and what they're doing legally. Absolutely. And it's, it's a wonderful thing.

Impacts of the Ruling

Host RuthAnn Hogue: What do you think are the potential long-term impacts, both positive and negative of this ruling on young people, who are questioning their gender identity? 

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: The negative impact from this is you're going to have a lot of people who are not truly understanding the whole trans issue, who are caught up in this.

I like to say social contagion They're going to be very upset. They're going to be turning against their family. They're going to be turning against people in their community. They're going to see themselves as bigger victims. It's going to rage them, and I think it's going to cause more dualism and separation coming from the propaganda coming outta the rainbow plantation, the far-left aspect of this.

And for that, it's pretty sad. I am very happy though the life's going to change, the direction is going to change the gender identity movement and the conversation's going to open. Like the one I tried to open up when I stood in front of Charlene Oliver, she's the senate outta district [00:25:00] 19 in Tennessee, one in front of legislator.

When she was, she liked to bring up , the suicide rate of transgender youth. And she now is one of her arguments and I stood up before her and I, appreciate that. They're going to fall back on the victimization card and double down on this 10 times a Sunday.

But the truth is, is that my community is not able to speak about the fact that we're 25% more likely to abuse alcohol. We're three to five times more likely

We're 12.2 times more likely to use amphetamine and almost 10 times more likely to use heroin. And this is just a trans community alone going up against the rest of society. And that's from the Center for American Progress [Full Report] if anybody wants a receipt on that. These are numbers which are astronomical and detrimental to my community, and a lot of it has to do with the culture that which we are brought within.

You separate these children from these communities, you bring 'em into this culture. It is. thriving off sex, it's thriving off recreational drug use, it's thriving off that lifestyle and you're bringing them down into a very dark world, [00:26:00] a world that I escaped from. This is a world I know all too well, and this is where my passion for standing up for these kids actually begins.

And I have a lot of friends I've lost along this journey who are trans or who were trans, let me say who I carry in my heart, and I refuse to do them disgrace by not raising this issue to the forefront. And I brought that up and I said, there's, and she just rolled her eyes to not going to have that conversation.

On top of that, the other aspect of this, I brought that up, was the fact that, again. They were confusing gender dysphoria with transgender itself. Again, the ideological trap. And when you're bringing in a progressive social engineering, social construct, redesign of gender and sexuality under the guise of identity politics, you're going to have a big mess.

And so those are the two points I brought up for her. 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: Thank you for doing that. I know you had said that you had supported this, so is that when you're talking about your advocacy for it

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: yes. 

Personal Advocacy and Experiences

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: I made sure I stood in front of my peers on the left and in front of the state legislator myself, and I stood up with the conservatives and let them know there were factions in the trans that stand very openly with the conservatives on the stance.

We may be censored, , you may not [00:27:00] hear a lot of our voices online because we are actively targeted for censorship. , If you want, I'll send you after this is done. , There's a piece in Breitbart that I did a few years ago , they intercepted, , from an American Journal Society emails going out to mainstream media outlets and, , social media outlets that were directing them to silence the voice of Detransition.

Silence avoids a trans-medicalist like me and to push the ideology in its place. Not only were they direct on them to do so, they were actively funding it. So this has been, again, a social engineering project where a lot of deception was pursuant to the success. And like I said, I want to re reiterate why I'm so excited about the Supreme Court decision.

It's starting to hit on the deception, break down a lot of their, let's say, the weaponization of the deception and the confusion. 

Support for Gender Dysphoria

Host RuthAnn Hogue: what kind of support do you believe should be available for young people experiencing gender dysphoria, if not medical transition at a young age? What should be available to help them?

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: I think there should be counseling available. I'm not, I [00:28:00] have no problem with people having their own set of peers and their belief systems, things of that nature. They're going to have that regardless. 

But I like I said earlier, in the podcast is I want to see a lot of federal funding shift over to the diagnostic aspect of this and to, the mental health aspect of this help them understand because.

Again, we are dealing with two different beasts here. Are you gender dysphoric? Does that mean you feel like you're the opposite sex? Is that a medical condition or are you part of a belief system which believes that gender is a spectrum or something different? And you just fall upon that because it's a different sociological design that you've been taught.

There's two totally different directions here, so when the two are together and conflated, you can't. You don't know where the kids think. The kids are just going to be messed and they're just going to fall into that victimization mindset. I think it's important to have that therapy, to have that true understanding and that therapy and I think it's important for parents to have their rights to be able to teach their kids.

The ideology that they believe in. Is gender a social construct [00:29:00] based on sex base or is gender not? That is an adult decision, and that's a parental decision. That is not a decision for the government to make. That's not a decision for school to make. That's not a decision for other people. And so what I would like to see is parents having control over the ideological direction of their children regarding this.

Message to Families and Individuals

Host RuthAnn Hogue: , There's a lot of emotional debate surrounding this topic. Clearly.

There are going to be people who are distressed, what message could you share

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: I think that it's time for us within a trans umbrella of the community itself to be completely honest and open with all society. If we continue to let the far left run the direction of this movement, you can see where it's going to drive us completely off the cliff into rejection.

We need to come to a table and we need to have an open conversation and be truthful with who we are. We need to separate the medical condition of gender dysphoria away from the ideology. We need to treat that in a way that it's going to be best for every patient and individually and separate that from the social conquest of what we're trying to do on theological end of the far left.

There's a lot of us in a trans community that want nothing to do with that. That is [00:30:00] your conquest. That's not ours. That is a belief system. It's an ideation that needs constant affirmation. And that's why when people don't affirm it, you feel like a victim. That's why you feel broken. You need to self-love, self-accept.

Do not let the ideology take that away from you. Continue searching, finding yourself, and then you can be free. But if we can do that, we really want true equal rights in this country as trans people. What we need to do is we need to separate that medical condition from the ideology. Recognize the ideology.

Be honest, everybody. This is an ideological belief system. It's an ideation, and we need to have that protected under separation of church and state. So we can have protections to be who we want to be and believe what we want to believe, but we don't. We're also going to have the limitations where we're not going to be able to invade the rest of society, harm them, and have the backlash come

I have Muslim friends, I have Buddhist friends, I have Jewish friends. I have friends from all faith, and I can go out and hang out with them on Friday night and we can hang out, have a good time. I love them dearly, but I'm not going to get on my knees on in, on Sunday and pray to their mosque or their church.

Why? Because we have separation of church and state. I. [00:31:00] I have, I respect their American liberty to believe in what they want to believe. We cannot allow the far-left aspect of  the gender identity movement to take this medical condition to hijack it and continue to violate that free will and that liberty and other Americans if we do so.

As long as we do so, we are going to be an enemy to the majority of the people in this country. And if we're continuing to do so, we're , never going to gain footing. We're only going to continue to keep rolling backwards. 

Journey to the MAGA Movement

Host RuthAnn Hogue: I want to let the audience know if they're not familiar with you.

You are very well accepted in the MAGA community, and you proclaim yourself as MAGA, you identify as a conservative and stand with the conservative movement. You just happen to be who you are, how did you, get involved , with MAGA?

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: This is an important aspect 'cause I don't want anyone to think that I'm high and righteous.

No. I actually come from the gutter. I'm the warrior from the gutter of America that fought up backwards into MAGA. I was a far-left social justice warrior. I come from the trans adult industry, and if you guys were ever in [00:32:00] behind closed doors in my bedroom, you'd all probably be horrified. I'm not going to lie about that.

, I've been very open about who I am as a person, and when I was a social justice warrior for transgender people, I was one original social media influencers for the movement. I'm talking between 2010 to 2015, 16 or so. I even ran New England's first trans adult strip club. , I was heavily in the BDSM community and it, what I call the dark side of the rainbow.

And while I was there, I fell into the substance abuse. I fell into the lifestyle and I ended up being pretty much red pilled when I decided to start working for the rainbow plantation. When I understood what was going on regarding what I brought up earlier in the,, podcast regarding the rates of usage of substance abuse within my community, started bringing that bell.

I became an enemy, and I eventually became an informant. And when I did, I pretty much had blue turn on me. I lost all my social media. I got, I understood what shadow banning was, and the instant I became the pariah of the, rainbow movement and for safety, [00:33:00] originally, I went into conservatism. And eventually found myself into MAGA movement.

And as MAGA has been fighting the establishment regarding the influx of illegal substances and trafficking, especially within my community, I naturally fit with certain sects , , of that movement. And at that point, I also understood the social media manipulation and how they centered and took my voice and it pissed me off.

So I flipped the house and I took about $80,000 of my own money, purchased a vehicle, and they were going to take my social media. I decided I was going to go on everybody else's and I started traveling the country. 35 states. In 10 years I've been, I don’t know how many Trump rallies has won Trump's front row. Joes.

I've done a walkaway March of b Brendan Stocker, straight Pride with Milo, different churches, different organizations, purple for parents, monster liberty. I've gone around as someone who wasn't supposed to be there as a walkaway, as a as icon. Classically, Christie was going in there trying to teach conservancy.

Social engineering aspects of the gender in deity movement to help better protect American liberty. And I found along this journey that [00:34:00] they would truly, my family, they were my people, my community. I don't see transgender as my community again. I see that as a weaponized umbrella, which yeah, trying to appropriate me.

, Yeah, I have kidney disease too. Does that mean everybody in the world has kidney disease? Part of my community? No. I have gender dysphoria. It's a medical condition. So I realized and understood that MAGA would adopt anybody who would stand on a line of equal rights for all Americans and stand and defend that.

And that's what I have done. Whether it's too far right or too far left, I will fight anybody that's going to challenge that. Well, I want equal respect to equal American liberty. And among that, I've found nothing but love along my MAGA community. It's not just a few people here and there. This is again, a journey of 10 years traveling across 35 different states intimately, meeting, mingling, and meet with people, and they become truly my family.

Mag is not a political movement for me. Is family. Family. It is something more. It's deeper. And I do love you all. 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: We love you right back. Is there anything that I haven't asked that you would like to add as a closing statement?

Closing Thoughts and Appreciation

Kristy Pandora Greczowski: I just want to say thank you. Thank you to all of you who are [00:35:00] standing up and who are really standing up to protect the kids. A woman's rights. Religious liberty is important. American Liberty and free will. know this is a good sector of the trans community that is actively standing behind you.

I'm one that will stand openly with you. So just to understand that we're in this together and don't believe everything you're going to hear on social media, it is what it is. Um, but. I think we're in a good place now. Much better than we were a year ago looking back. So hold on tight and any way that I can stand with you guys, most certainly, I will do so.

Just look me up. 

Host RuthAnn Hogue: Thank you so much, Christie.

SHOW CLOSING

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